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5 Best Practices for a Hybrid Workplace

The idea of a “normal” office workplace is now something of the past. Remote work and work from home are a new norm. There is another shift in the workplace occurring as offices are starting to plan their reopening. The idea of a hybrid workplace is becoming more critical and attractive as employers and employees revisit recent learnings and their needs moving forward. Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO, believes the hybrid workplace is “here to stay” as the productivity of working from home will remain vital during this time. 

A hybrid workplace is a flexible workplace model that is designed to support a distributed workforce of both in-office and remote workers. The hybrid workplace isn’t a completely new idea, with many companies (especially in the tech and start up worlds) allowing flexible work from home policies or remote hires. However, there are nownew ways of working across the board – businesses have been forced to rethink what it means to have a physical workplace. 

The global shift to remote work was drastic at first, but opportunities quickly presented themselves. The virtual business landscape brought many positives that most people didn’t even think about before. For example, virtual workshops and conferences allow hundreds of people across the globe to connect without the cost of travel or timing limitations. Cost savings in general for both employees and employers emerged. Time was also saved across the board – instead of needing to plan for a busy commute, parking, elevator ride up to the office, setting up a conference room, etc., joining a meeting became as quick and easy as clicking “Join a Meeting” on Zoom. The Voltage Control team has always been remote (outside of our in-person workshops and events) so this shift wasn’t new to us – we’ve documented best practices for remote teams, and even assembled a toolkit that allows our remote team to facilitate virtual meetings that are as effective, if not more effective, than traditional face-to-face interactions.

More and more companies are making the decision to offer permanent remote work options for their employees, including Twitter, JP Morgan, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and Dell. Other large employers like Google and Facebook have extended work-from-home options for employees through the end of this year. Remote work, when directed by effective systems and processes, works.

Employees have demonstrated the ability to work productively and successfully, in large part due to available tools and technology (discussed in more detail below). However, many also can’t wait to get back to the office. Being in person with other colleagues provides a sense of collaboration and inclusiveness that isn’t easily replicated, especially if used to it before. Working from home also has its own set of distractions, especially for those with families, spouses, roommates, and pets. 

As more and more companies and offices are planning their re-openings keeping all this in mind, we predict both remote work and in-office presence will co-exist. Therefore the workforce will need to approach this hybrid model strategically, leading us into 5 best practices of a hybrid workplace:

1. Remember the importance of technology + tools

These tools played an obvious role when the majority of office workers were forced to be remote. However, as some employees return to the physical office and some remain remote, they will continue to be critical to keep everyone aligned and organized as the virtual + in-person worlds merge into a hybrid workplace:

  • Zoom – Videoconferencing platform with breakout room capabilities
  • Trello –  A place for assigning work and tracking work progress using a Kanban-style list-making application. Assign individuals to cards to create clear to-do lists and organize priorities.
  • Google Docs – Smart editing and styling tools support joint teamwork to flow smoothly and easily and keep ideas in one place. Teams can work on different pages or in different docs accordingly. 
  • Google Slides – Interactive work templates with multiple pages to allow individual and collective work.
  • Google Sheets – Collaborative spreadsheets to organize and update tasks and information. 
  • Google Drive or other cloud storage – Drop all assets and work content into a shared space for easy access for all team members. Use different folders to organize information. 
  • Basecamp – Real-time communication tool to keep track of everything you’re working on in a shared space. 
  • Focus To-Do – Pomodoro time and task management app that helps you perform tasks efficiently. 
  • Process Street – Make checklists for your team to help you remember and keep track of all of your to-do’s. 
  • SessionLab – Dynamically design, organize and share workshops and training content.
  • Slack – Team messaging platform that is a smart alternative to email. It allows the team to have a shared view of work progress and purpose
  • Loom – Screen recorder that allows you to capture video screen messages instead of sending long emails. It’s also helpful for sending team members visual directions if you cannot screen share in real-time.
  • Doodle – Calendar scheduling system for time management and to easily coordinate one-on-one and team meetings. 
  • World Time Buddy – World clock, time zone converter, and online meeting scheduler to coordinate and plan across different time zones.

2. Take Care of Your People

Your employees are your most important asset. Ask them what they actually want – don’t assume everyone wants the same thing when it comes to remote vs. in-person work presence. This is a benefit of the hybrid workplace – it allows flexibility depending on employee comfort level, schedules, and physical location. Consider offering your employees options of working at your company, for example:

  • Remote First: Primarily working from home
  • In-Office First: Primarily working from the physical office
  • Something in between: Splitting time relatively evenly between working from home and from the office

Also, try to maintain company culture for everyone in the hybrid workplace, regardless of what they choose. Just because someone is not in the office does not mean they should be overlooked. Hold informal online meet ups, virtual town halls, and ensure they’re included in any perks that those in the office receive (for example, if food or coffee is provided to office employees, consider giving remote employees a snack stipend or coffee subscription).

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3. Make Your Job Listings Remote

If you are offering existing employees the option to work remotely, include this hybrid workplace strategy in your recruitment efforts. Wherever you can, make new job listings remote. This may also allow businesses to unlock talent that may have been inaccessible previously. Perhaps the best candidate for a job opening lives in another state. With remote hiring options, you are not bound to proximity to get the best for your team.

4. Communication is Key

Ensure communication flows between in-office and remote staff. This is increasingly important as workers become more spread across different time zones and locations. Consider daily standup updates on Slack, end-of-day status emails, all hands/town halls, check-ins with direct reports, and video meetings to include everyone on the team. It will take extra effort to ensure all employees feel connected and can communicate effectively, but it is what will make your team successful.

5. Be Adaptable

Experiment with different workflows and processes to discover what works best, and be open to change. This idea of the hybrid workplace becoming the “norm” is new to many – there will be a learning curve so employees and employers should remain patient and flexible. It will definitely take some time to get used to, but testing new and different processes will allow for more improvement and better solutions moving forward.

Employees increasingly value flexibility in the workplace, according to a survey by Salesforce, resulting in the rise of the hybrid workplace. For employers, the hybrid workplace can offer better and more diverse talent when location isn’t a constraint. Companies may also see a positive impact in other areas, such as employee satisfaction, productivity, and cost savings. Changing the way a business runs will no doubt have its challenges – but it’s clear the hybrid workplace is here to stay, and embracing the opportunities it offers will likely be well worth it.

Here at Voltage Control, we are exercising and sharing the best tools and techniques needed for teams to thrive in the hybrid workplace, through productive meetings (in-person and virtual), remote work team collaboration, considerations for return to work, facilitation skills, virtual events, meeting culture, Magical Meetings, and design sprints.

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Episode 10: Why it’s Okay to go to Bed Angry https://voltagecontrol.com/blog/episode-10-why-its-okay-to-go-to-bed-angry/ Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:30:17 +0000 https://voltagecontrol.com/?p=6987 Control the Room Podcast: Douglas Ferguson speaks with Alexandra Jamieson of Super Size Me fame about effective communication, couples’ coaching, meeting snacks, how to hone your communication skills like a professional musician, and why a movement break is like MiracleGro for your brain. [...]

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A conversation with Alexandra Jamieson of Super Size Me

“We are both in this radical honesty together where…we have a structure that’s going to hold us as we evolve and change together and as individuals…I witnessed that many people don’t feel safe to evolve and change and be themselves. So if you can’t change with the people around you, I don’t know that you are allowing yourself to change.” -Alexandra Jamieson

Today, I’m excited to speak with Alexandra Jamieson of Super Size Me fame. For two decades, Alexandra has worked professionally as a coach, driving creative women to build their visions for success. She is also an award-winning author, a podcast host, and an artist. She says she is on this earth to help others be rid of imposter syndrome and claim their worth (and wealth!).

In today’s episode, we speak about effective communication, couples’ coaching, and meeting snacks. Listen in to find out how to hone your communication skills like a professional musician mastering their instrument and why a movement break is like MiracleGro for your brain.

Show Highlights

[0:55]  Supersize Me & going viral for quitting veganism.
[5:05] The tiny thing that makes couples communicate effectively.
[14:51] Why effective communication is like playing an instrument.
[18:10] How going to bed angry can actually benefit your relationship.
[29:35] No more conference cookies.
[34:52] The All-In Method.
[37:56] Alexandra’s challenge for the listener.

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Radical Alignment: A book about difficult conversations
Alexandra’s podcast, Her Rules Radio, on Stitcher

About the Guest

For 20 years, Alexandra has coached creators, founders, and leaders on the rise to use their strengths, values, intuition, and creative thinking to achieve success on their own terms. She loves championing women and their creative visions by helping them feel worthy of their desires, allowing them to begin bringing their visions to reality and transforming the world. Outside of her coaching work, Alexandra has hosted her #1 podcast Her Rules Radio for 6 years and written 5 best-selling books. You also may know her as co-producer and co-star of the Oscar-nominated documentary Super Size Me.

About Voltage Control

Voltage Control is a facilitation agency that helps teams work better together with custom-designed meetings and workshops, both in-person and virtual. Our master facilitators offer trusted guidance and custom coaching to companies who want to transform ineffective meetings, reignite stalled projects, and cut through assumptions. Based in Austin, Voltage Control designs and leads public and private workshops that range from small meetings to large conference-style gatherings.

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Intro: Welcome to the Control the Room Podcast, a series devoted to the exploration of meeting culture and uncovering cures for the common meeting. Some meetings have tight control, and others are loose. To control the room means achieving outcomes while striking a balance between imposing and removing structure, asserting and distributing power, leaning in and leaning out, all in the service of having a truly magical meeting.

Douglas: Today I’m with Alexandra Jamieson, coproducer and costar of Super Size Me. Today we’re here to talk about her fifth book that’s upcoming, will be released in August, called Radical Alignment. Welcome to the show, Alexandra.

Alexandra: Thank you so much for having me.

Douglas: So, for starters, I’d love to hear about how you got started in the work you do.

Alexandra: It’s been a long and tangled road to be an author and coach. I’ve been an author and a coach for over a decade—as you said, this is my fifth book—and I really started in the health-and-wellness world. And we were about the same age when you and I both discovered we had these massive health issues in our mid-20s and that food was the answer. So I dove deep. I’m a two-feet-in kind of person. I discovered food is healing, food is medicine. Went to culinary school, became a vegan chef, did catering, etc.. And right around that time, I met my now ex. But we made the movie Super Size Me together. He ate nothing but McDonald’s for a month, for anybody who remembers that. He got really sick, and I put him on my vegan detox plan afterwards to, like, clean up his liver, his high cholesterol, all the stuff that happened to him so quickly from eating terrible fast food all the time.

And I was also a budding health coach. I was working with people one on one to help them figure out their nutritional needs but also their emotional eating life. So it was a very interesting mix of coaching techniques that I was bringing to people.

But after being vegan for a decade, I started to get really sick again. I was chronically anemic. I had all these health concerns, and I really tried everything in the vegan framework to fix it. But it turns out I am one of those people that has to eat things like chicken liver and organ meat. That’s the only way my body can absorb iron.

So I had this kind of infamous coming out as no longer vegan that went viral. You know, we all want our stuff to go viral, Doug, but this I really didn’t want anybody to see it. I was like, I just have to be honest. I had written three vegan cookbooks at this point, so it was a bit of a shift, you could say. And it really blew up in, first, a very kind of over-the-top, extreme way, like people wishing me death, losing friends because I wasn’t vegan anymore.

And that also led to my fourth book called Women, Food, and Desire, which is this real examination of women’s cravings and our relationship with our bodies. And around that time, I was now getting divorced from Super Size Me husband, and I met Bob, my new husband. I stepped it up, upgraded a little bit. And Bob came from this design and agile consulting, facilitation world, and I have been in the coaching world for just over 10 years at that point, and we began to realize as our relationship grew that we were talking about a lot of the same things. Even though I was doing kind of life coaching, health coaching, he was doing real, like, solid business design kind of consulting, it was like, we’re using a lot of the same tools to help people figure out what they want, what they need, what the challenges are, and move forward. So that’s kind of the seed that led to this book that has some really powerful tools at the heart of it.

Douglas: That’s amazing. I echo that similar sentiment in my journey at Voltage Control, just as a facilitator, not wanting to just be too dogmatic or aligned with one specific discipline. And the more I sought out and the more I learned in all these different silos that there is quite a bit that’s common, but there are some stuff that people were doing a little differently. And when you combine those things together, you can get these real awesome, emergent qualities that you wouldn’t have otherwise.

So, I’m curious. Can you tell a story or is there a tool in particular that when you think about the fact that you came together, that the sum’s greater than the combining of the parts, per se.

Alexandra: By the request of some of our friends, we actually led a couple of couples workshops. And I’ll be honest. It was usually the women, like, dragging their boyfriends or husbands to come to these workshops. And we realized they were there for very different reasons. One person wanted one experience, and one person was there for a completely different reason.

And so Bob had this kind of tool from his past life. I think he was also a newspaper design director. Anyway, he said, “You know what, we don’t need to get on the same page. We need to get into alignment.” And we started teaching this very simple conversation tool to put all the information out on the table. Why are you here? What do you want? What are you worried about? etc..

And after a couple of workshops, we realized, like nothing else from those workshops really took off, but this one simple conversation structure that we taught, people kept texting us and emailing us and saying, “What was that four-step thing that you took us through, again? because I have this other conversation that I need to have.”

So over the course of the next two years, people kept bugging us for this thing. We’re a little slow on the uptake. I’m like, “All right. Let’s just put this in a Google Doc because then we can stop explaining it to everybody. We can just say ‘Here it is; here it is; here it is.’”

But we kept getting these incredible stories from our friends who were using it, that it was helping them in their marriage, that it was helping them with negotiations at work, that they were using it like Bob was using it, teaching it in these high-level, CEO boardroom kind of situations. And then the CEO would say, “That was amazing. I’m taking that home to my husband, and we’re going to use that conversation at home.”

So I  was like, “Oh, my goodness, this one little thing,” sometimes it’s just this tiny thing that people keep asking for. We didn’t even see how valuable it was. And that’s the genesis of this whole project, this book.

Douglas: So what are these four steps? You’ve got me very curious.

Alexandra: So it’s a really simple, guided conversation that helps two or more people get really clear and develop just a deeper understanding of or appreciation for each other. It really creates team psychological safety. And there’s some very specific things about that in terms of how you run it, right? You’re the facilitator guy, so you totally get it. There’s some ground rules that you got to set up. You got to set the stage.

And, you know, one thing is, I always tell people, first, never say to someone, “We need to talk.” That’s the wrong way to introduce any kind of conversation.

Douglas: That’ll ruin the rest of my day. All I can think about is, “What are we talking about? What things?”

Alexandra: So, think about how you want to invite someone to a conversation or a meeting. Have a comfortable, distraction-free place. And believe me, we use this in business and in our personal lives, so we’re very clear to make sure everybody is well rested. We do not do meetings at the end of the day. We just don’t. Make sure you’re fed. Make sure no one has had even one glass of alcohol.

Those are three very basic things. Because we are human animals, our bodies are very much aligned with our brains. And if we’re not fed, if we’ve had even a little booze, and if we’re exhausted, we’re not going to be present or clear. So think about those things before you get to an important conversation.

And then, get clear about what the point is. “What are we talking about and why?” And just, we’re very specific. “Okay, we’re going to talk about project x so we can become a great team, or we’re discussing our summer vacation so that we can both have a wonderful time.” That level of clarity.

And then, you go into the conversation. A minute ago I said team psychological safety, and one of the things that we’ve learned in all of our practice and all of our research is that there is a real inequality of power in most rooms. There’s somebody who’s got the power, and there’s somebody—and there’s extroverts and introverts. So we actually request that you time everyone, that everybody gets two or four minutes per share so that it is very equal.

And some people have—it’s funny. In Bob and my relationship, he’s an incredible verbal processor. He talks it out and gets clear. And I actually need to sit and be quiet for up to 15 seconds sometimes to know what I’m going to say. But when you have a timer and no one else is speaking, there’s no crosstalk. It’s like, “Okay, I’ve got this space where I can just relax and think about what it is that I need to say.” So give each person the same amount of time. That is true equality.

And then, you go into the four-part conversation. So that’s all the set up. And you each share your intentions, concerns, boundaries, and dreams. And you can think of intentions of, why do you want to be a part of this project? Why can this project support your personal values or your goals? What led you to get involved in this? So what are your intentions in being a part of this? And it can be super simple, like, “I want to have fun. I want to learn something, and I want to make money.” And again, you all go around; you all share the same amount of time.

And then you go into your concerns. And this is where we encourage you to start being very vulnerable in the spirit of, let’s really try to discover who we are. And luckily, the human brain is incredibly good at coming up with fears and worries and concerns. In fact, it’s probably the best thing that our brains are good at. And let’s tap into it. Let’s tap into that negativity bias that we have. Because actually, when you say your worries and concerns out loud in a safe space, and let’s really set up these conversations like, “I want to know what you really think. You’re not going to get penalized for this. Let’s not take anything personally in this room,” when you say it out loud, your brain hears it, and it actually has the effect of calming down your amygdala. Your nervous system can chill out a bit. And that way you can actually get clear and calm, which leads to better decision making by the end of it.

Douglas: Well, there’s a lot there to unpack. Not only the setting—the one big one is setting the initial conditions. You know, you talked a lot about being well fed, no alcohol, a comfortable space. The invitation, I think, is so critical. And I love that you use that word. Liberating Structures talks a lot about crafting a really good invitation. I think there’s some real beauty in that word because it’s not that we’re telling you what to do. We’re inviting you in. It’s very open. And also, I love this notion of starting with gratitude and appreciation. Kudos for that because there’s some really great design elements at play in that activity.

And when you think about the components that kind of came into this, how did you end up developing that? What did you draw inspiration from? Was it just like you just sat down and it just kind of came to you, or was there a process to kind of develop it and refine it?

Alexandra: So Bob and I have been through so many trainings and coaching programs over the years, before we even came together as a couple. When we started teaching these couples workshops, there was the seed of it. It was like, “Okay, why are we here, and what challenges could we have in getting to what you want?” Those kind of—I mean, those seem like pretty basic questions. But it took some time using it and then teaching it in other settings and boardrooms and with my clients, etc., that we’re like, “Oh, it needs to be this order: intentions, concerns, boundaries, and dreams.” It took a little time to figure out kind of the magical recipe. Like, you don’t want to add the salt at the end of a recipe. It’s got to go in at the beginning so that it can spread throughout. So it really became clear through doing it what the order needed to be.

Douglas: I love that you say that, because we’re big believers that facilitation requires practice and you have to develop those skills and you have to get comfortable, and a lot of it has to do with confidence. And, you know, it’s similar to a musician that’s improving, right? You had to get so comfortable with your instrument that you can perform in a very rigid style. Then you’re able to, then, let go and kind of flow with the moment and find what lands.

Can you tell any stories about some of the formulas that you tried that just didn’t work out and why, and what the lessons to learn from that would be?

Alexandra: Actually, I want to go back to what you just said about playing an instrument. We really describe this four-part structure, we’re like, this is playing scales. You know, every great musician still practices their scales. You go dah, dah, dah, dah, right? We do one, two, three, four. And then, eventually, you can improvise. We’re now so practiced with it, we’ll just—let’s say we had a conversation two weeks ago about visiting the in-laws, and now one of us comes up with, “Oh, you know what, I have a new boundary.” We can just, like, drop into that conversation at point C instead of point A again. So we have this shared vocabulary where we’re kind of always in the conversation about different topics. And that’s just—

What’s really, really helpful—I’ll tell you what my life was like before I learned how to have tough conversations using this structure was I just didn’t have tough conversations. I just avoided hard topics. This has given me a sense of—like you said, you have to become confident as a facilitator—I just become confident. Okay, I have four buckets to put all my thoughts and feelings in. And now I know that the science to a good conversation is coming back to the topic, not letting it get off and create—I think that’s one of the reasons why I avoided emotional or high-stakes conversations, because I thought I’m going to have to prove everything I believe is right and have logical arguments for everything, and somebody is going to win, and somebody’s going to lose. With this structure, it’s like, no, we’re just in information-gathering zone. And we develop empathy for each other through it, which is so important. That’s like the sweet spot of alignment.

Douglas: Yeah. That’s amazing.

I was thinking a bit about this notion of being afraid to have some of those conversations, and maybe it’s not like people might hear that and think, “Oh, I’m daunted by all this fear,” but sometimes it’s just subconscious, right? Sometimes we don’t even entertain the thought, because our brains are protecting us from that thing that we’re deeply fearful of or just avoiding.

And I recently saw some really awesome facilitation guides. It was a guide, but it contained some prompts. And it was written by DiAngelo, who is the author of White Fragility, and these prompts were for basically starting conversations that are hard to start. And she called them silence breakers. And as you talked about being more equipped to have these conversations now, it got me really excited. It reminded me of this notion of silence breakers. And I think it’s really important and it’s amazing to hear that your work is headed in that same direction.

So as folks start to think about being able to open up in this way or what that experience is like, what should they consider or how should they—what are some things that they need to keep in mind?

Alexandra: I’m so glad you asked that. So we covered intentions and concerns, the first two steps. The third one is boundaries. And that is a very challenging topic for people to come up with answers for. What are my boundaries? And it’s not like ordering off a menu, where I’m going to say something and it’s a demand of, this is what you’re going to do for me or this is what I must have. Think of it like, what are the things I need, the conditions that help me show up to be my best? What are the way—think of them as starter boundaries, right? Take the pressure off of things to be perfect. Think of it as, what do you need to be your personal best? What will help keep us from reaching burn out? What rules or standards help us work together best?

One of the things we discovered, and I cannot believe it took me until my 40s to realize this, but do not start an important conversation at bedtime. Don’t. Just don’t. It’s okay to go to bed angry or unclear, truly. That has been a game changer in my marriage. And I’ve seen it happen in the workplace, too. People are like, “We have to figure this out today. We’re staying until it’s done.” Actually, everybody’s exhausted, and nobody is going to show up and be their best right now, so it’s okay for us to take a break and for us to honor the exhaustion that’s present.

Douglas: Yeah, I love this notion of boundaries. I’m a big fan of compartmentalization, so what is the right way to—like, where do we put this thought, and what’s important right now in this moment? And if we can constrain things and really just kind of neatly package them up, then we can better be in service of the work that we’re doing. Maybe we need to put some things aside. Maybe some things are off limits. That’s really, really awesome.

The thing that I’m curious about is, just to get your reaction to this idea of honoring yourself, and authentic relating, they have this notion—well, this ground rule—of honoring yourself. So if someone asks something of you, because this is very deeply relating kind of work that they’re doing, and so someone could ask you a very personal question because we’re trying to build connection, and so there’s this notion of, if you don’t feel comfortable, then just pass. And so only contribute at the level that you feel comfortable contributing. I think there’s some beauty in that. And it’s similar to this being gracious with each other.

Alexandra: Well, there’s two things that you’re reminding me of that I think are so important. Generally, in the room, if there is a designated leader in a work situation, that might be more obvious, right? Like, the team leader or the C-suite-level person. But in our relationship, perhaps the leader could be considered the person who’s bringing this topic up. So they’re leading the initial situation. That person, we realized, they need to be the most brave. They need to be the most courageous and the most vulnerable. They need to set the tone for, like, “I am going to be super vulnerable here. I’m really going to share my heart and my truth here,” so that everybody else is like, “Oh, wow. Okay. This person has been really vulnerable. I’m going to maybe go an inch further in sharing my truth now.” So that’s one aspect.

But the other one is we really encourage—and this is something I do personally all the time—I go through these four steps by myself, and I write out my thoughts. And we will often—I’ve definitely coached my clients to do this. We’ve even done it as a couple, even though we’ve used this hundreds of times now. We will, like, “Okay, you know what, tomorrow we’re going to talk about this topic,” to give ourselves some time to think about our intentions, concerns, boundaries, and dreams, before we meet so that we just have some time to gather our thoughts and maybe be more coherent in how we express ourselves. And that is very compassionate and very thoughtful, because not everyone is a verbal processor. Some people need to write it out or take a walk and think about it first. Why not give people a little more time if you’re able to?

Douglas: Absolutely. And we often think about multisensory experiences because there’s kind of a myth that some people are visual learners and some people are auditory learners. The fact of the matter is we all learn through many different forms, and in any given moment, we may be more attuned to a different style, and we kind of need it all. And so if we as workshop facilitators and designers want the best out of our participants, we need to consider those things. So I think that’s really fantastic. And we’ve even been asking people to do that silent solo work as part of the workshop, because, frankly, people are jam-packed schedules and are super busy, so the pre-work rarely gets done. So to be in service of those people, like you say, that are slower or need more reflection time, just bake it in. And the people that don’t need it, well, they’ll be fine.

Alexandra: Yeah. You can doodle—

Douglas: Yes, exactly.

Alexandra: —while the rest of us write.

Douglas: That’s right.

So I wanted to come back to this comment you made about being authentic. And I think it might have been in the preshow chatter. But when you brought it up, it was around this notion of, you had this strong pull to be true to the brand you’ve built and true to this identity that was out in the world, and being authentic to your body, to your DNA, to your cellular—like, everything that was physical about your situation was screaming that you needed to behave in a certain way. If you were going to be authentic to that, you had to leave some other stuff behind. In fact, potentially friends and it could have had an impact on livelihood. And that must’ve been a really challenging moment. And if I really compare it to some of the challenges other people face, it trivializes some of these situations people find themselves in, yet they can’t be authentic. And I think it’s just may be a beacon to those that are in meetings and not being authentic, because the best way to get to where you want to go and to build strong teams is to be authentic. Sure, you can be a role model in the work that you’ve already done. But are there any tactics or things people can think about as to how they can really tap into what it means to be authentic for them?

Alexandra: And I can’t understress how—and this is true for me and my life. You know, I am myself, and you may have a very different, unique experience. But when I feel I am living inauthentically, I am just incapable of being happy. You know, there was a year and a half where I was hiding that I was eating meat. My business was suffering. My energy was suffering. Everything about my life felt frustrating. And I would rather blow up my life by being really honest, and not honest in a way like, I’m going to tell you what I really think about you. No. Me being honest to myself. I would rather have to deal with the repercussions of that. But I tell you how I’ve been able to—I mean, since I met Bob and since we’ve been using this format of communication, I feel so incredibly safe and held because we are both in this radical honesty together where it’s very clear, like, we’re allowed to evolve and change, and we have a structure that’s going to hold us as we evolve and change together and as individuals. I didn’t have that in my first marriage, and I witnessed that many people don’t feel safe to evolve and change and be themselves. So if you can’t change with the people around you, I don’t know that you are allowing yourself to change.

Douglas: Yeah. That’s interesting because I think that applies deeply inside teams, too, especially as we find ourselves in more and more complex situations. We’re not in the days of the factory, where things are repeatable and the same widgets coming down the assembly line every day, one day after the other, or we can just follow a recipe. And so the change itself is changing, and teams have to be able to adapt. And I think the willingness to reinvent the team and be different tomorrow than we were yesterday is really important.

Alexandra: And the last step of the four-part conversation is probably the most important, and it definitely needs to happen at the end, which is you share your dreams. And this is very specific. If this goes incredibly well, what will be true for you as an individual, for us as a team, for the people impacted around us? How will you feel? What will have shifted? You really get into best-case scenario, imagination land, and you start to feel the oxytocin flowing, the connection. And when I hear from you what your dreams are, and I really feel you connected to that, it’s almost impossible for me to not want that for you, too. And it really, even if there are concerns and boundaries which seem to be in conflict, and you know that you’ve got some figuring out to do after this conversation, the dreams brings you all back together. Okay, how can we work together to make this work? It’s a really foundational.

Douglas: I’m going to switch gears a little bit, though. Food’s been a pretty core part of your life, and it’s hard to do work and it’s hard to meet as a team without eating, without having food. And when we met in person, when we had workshops in real life, we had to think about, what’s for lunch, and what’s the catering, what are we going to order? And that’s not as much of a concern anymore.

In fact, I’ve seen some jokes around the Internet. I think it was a lady. Her husband was attending a virtual conference. And so she prepared a bunch of horrible food for his virtual-conference experience. So like, soggy wraps. Yeah, exactly. Dry chicken, soggy wraps.

Alexandra: Really bad chicken.

Douglas: Had some pudding in a little cocktail dish. But all joking aside, what is your recommendation, as a health coach, for teams that are wanting to think about, what is a great workshop diet? What should they be thinking about eating when they’re wanting to concentrate more, to work together, stay focused?

Alexandra: I’m so glad you brought this up. This is one of my favorite things to talk about. No conference cookies. Just keep the sugar out of it. Seriously. It does not help in the long run. Everybody crashes. Fruit, for sure. Have some of those natural sugars. Have some in-season, good-quality fruits. Variety of things. People do need a little bit sugar. But if you eat two cookies, half an hour, hour from now, you’re worthless.

Douglas: As a diabetic, I’ve had to dive into a lot of this stuff. And the thing that really clicked for me, it’s okay if you have a little sugar. It’s okay if you have some fat. But when you mix fat and sugar, that’s doing a major whammy on you. And I think that’s where desserts really kill us. And it’s like if you’re eating fruit, it’s literally no fat and it has fiber, which is good. It’s going to slow down absorption. But man, the fat actually hijacks your system, and you absorb the sugar slower, but it really hits you harder on the end because your body can’t pull it down as fast because it really stays with you a lot longer and just, I mean, it really does a number on you. And that’s where the cookies are different than the fruit.

Alexandra: Yeah. So I recommend, get the sodas out of the room. Have iced tea. Caffeine, I think, is the drug that we all got to keep in the room, in some form, but have it be unsweetened stuff if at all possible. And have high-protein stuff. Have good-quality meats and veggies. Keep the sugar as much out of the room as possible.

And the other side of it is it’s not just about the food that we eat. You’ve got to include movement breaks regularly. Do not make people sit for an hour, even. Do some kind of, “All right, everybody’s going to stand up, and we’re going to stretch at the 30-minute mark.” It releases BDNF in the brain, brain-derived neurotrophic factor. It’s like Miracle-Gro for your brain. It really gets you back up. Do a little bit of breathing exercises. That’s as important as what you eat.

Douglas: Yeah. I love that. We love the stretch-and-share fun activity, and especially in the virtual space, because cadence and turn taking can be strange and foreign, and you can’t just go around the circle. So, yeah. Getting out of the chair. And as a facilitator, I think it’s really important to really model that behavior and encourage it, and make sure that people know that, man, this is serious stuff, Zoom fatigue and other things. It’s not only the—you talked about the benefits of getting the movement so that it’s improving our thinking and that we’re coming with better ideas. But there’s actually a negative consequence of not doing some of this stuff, making sure people don’t just use the breaks as an opportunity to say, “I’ll tab over their email and just start doing more text stuff.” Excellent.

Alexandra: Yeah.

Douglas: I want to talk a little bit about differentiated learning and just to hear a little bit about the work that you’re doing around supporting folks that might have different needs. And so when you’re working through some of this alignment stuff, do you ever run into situations where maybe someone’s struggling with concerns or boundaries? And how do you help those individuals that just maybe need a little something different than the rest of the group?

Alexandra: That’s a really great question. And I can actually bring an example from my 13-year-old son. He has dyslexia and ADHD. So he thinks differently than I do. His brain just works differently. And I find that breaking it up into actually two or three versions of the same conversation over the space of a couple days. Like, I pre-set the scene, day one. “Hey, we need to talk about,” like we just did today, “We need to talk about going back to school in the fall because we don’t know what schools are going to look like here in New York City. There’s all kinds of ideas, and nobody knows what’s up. And we know there’s a couple of options on the table. So here’s what I know so far. Do you have any concerns or questions about that before we talk about it in a couple of days with your dad? Just to drop it in there and ask him the open-ended questions so that in the background it’s running. His brain can be prepared to think about it in a day or two.

Douglas: I love that. I always talk about the best workshop homework is where they don’t really have to do anything, but they’re doing it.

Alexandra: Yeah.

Douglas: Right? Because if it’s just enough to plant the seed in their subconscious, they’re going to be able to participate more deeply when the time comes, versus giving them a bunch of busy work or having them go do things that require present, hands-on stuff, which no one does.

Alexandra: Yeah, yeah. I’ve learned so much from being his mom and helping him learn to think and me understanding how he thinks. And I’ve been working with women as a success-in-life coach for over 10 years, and 10 years as a health coach before that. And I just realized that different people need different versions of the same question.

Actually, in the book Radical Alignment, we give dozens of options for different scenarios. We talk about how people have used the, we call it, the all-in method. Those four steps are the all-in method. People have used it to plan their weddings, like, huge multi-continent weddings, and they planned with this. But people also use it for their design teams, and they use it in H.R., and they use it at home. So through the book, there’s just dozens of ways to ask the same question, depending on your circumstances. So be willing to be flexible and curious. What’s another way I could ask this?

Douglas: Wow. I love this notion of, what is another way I could ask this? And I think the hallmark of a great listener, a great conversation, is fantastic questions. So what are some of your favorite questions?

Alexandra: I actually really love the dreams questions. What are you doing, and what would be the most amazing outcome for this? I don’t think we often get the opportunity to really dream big and share it out loud in a way where we’re not going to get shot down. So like, the “Oh, you, Pollyanna,” or “You’re crazy.”

I’m also an artist. I come from a family of artists. It’s kind of a miracle that any of us became artists, considering this culture we live in that is so down on artists. Like, “Oh, you better have a backup plan,” or “You’re going to be a starving artist.” You know, those ideas just get woven into the culture. So I love the invitation. Just say, like, “What would you like for Radical Alignment to happen when it publishes?” I’m like, “I would love it to be a New York Times’ bestseller. I want this in every middle school in America. I want every eighth grader learning how to have tough conversations in a way where they feel capable.” Like, that is my dream. That’s absolutely my dream.

Douglas: That’s phenomenal. So good.

And let’s talk a little bit about—one of my favorite questions is, if you can make meetings better, any average meeting—because as you know, I’m on a mission to rid the world of horrible meetings—

Alexandra: God bless you.

Douglas: —if you were to do one thing or just change one thing about meetings, what would it be?

Alexandra: For people to feel really safe to be themselves. I think people are dying for an opportunity to really be safe, to be themselves, and be accepted. I mean, that’s the bottom line.

Douglas: So I’d love to end with a message to the listener. So if there is anything that you’d want to leave them with, what might it be?

Alexandra: I want to invite you to try to bring structure to your conversat—I know I sound a little over the top, but this has truly changed so much about my life. It has changed decades-old family dysfunction, and it has changed my work and how successful my business is. Bring this structure to try it. Try this four-part conversation. Try it a few times. It has absolutely changed my life, my friends’ lives. The woman who wrote the foreword, she will inspire the heck out of you. An entrepreneur, who is a mom of five, she’s, like, “This saved my marriage.” I’m like, that’s a great testimonial for this book. Bring a little structure to your conversations, a little bit more professional structure to your intimate conversations, and a little bit more vulnerable intimacy to your professional conversations.

Douglas: It’s been a pleasure chatting with you today and hearing about your approach and your structure. I’m a huge fan of structure, and this falls right in with the work we do and what I love to talk about. So it was a tremendous pleasure chatting with you today.

And one last piece of housecleaning. How can folks find you? How can they get the book? I know it’s not quite out yet. Give us a little bit to go on.

Alexandra: We would love people to go preorder the book, actually. You can go to radicalalignmentbook.com. Listen, if you buy one or a couple copies and you just give us your little order number on the website, you get a free workshop with us. If you get 10 or more copies of the book, you get an eight-week training with me and my husband. So go to radicalalignmentbook.com, order the books there from wherever you love to get books. We are going to help you use this in your life and in your business beautifully.

Douglas: Excellent. And amazon.com, other suppliers as well.

Alexandra: Amazon, Kindle, Audible, your local independent bookstore, you can order it all through radicalalignmentbook.com.

Douglas: Radicalalignmentbook.com. So incredible. And I wish you the best of luck. I hope you do make the New York Times’ bestseller list. And again, it was a real pleasure to have you on the show.

Alexandra: Thank you.

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Lessons on Productivity from a Declassified 1944 CIA Manual https://voltagecontrol.com/blog/lessons-on-productivity-from-a-declassified-1944-cia-manual/ Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:13:21 +0000 https://voltagecontrolmigration.wordpress.com/2020/02/14/lessons-on-productivity-from-a-declassified-1944-cia-manual/ When exploring how to communicate more effectively in meetings, we stumbled upon a golden archive that opened our eyes to the long-standing, poor productivity habits many organizations have been practicing for decades, and don’t even know it. We discuss the amusing parallels found in a once-classified CIA manual used to undermine enemies of the nation [...]

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How to de-sabotage communication in your meetings

When exploring how to communicate more effectively in meetings, we stumbled upon a golden archive that opened our eyes to the long-standing, poor productivity habits many organizations have been practicing for decades, and don’t even know it. We discuss the amusing parallels found in a once-classified CIA manual used to undermine enemies of the nation in World World II.

World War II plane

Sabotaging productivity

The CIA published and secretly distributed the “Simple Sabotage Field Manual” in 1944 to citizens sympathetic to the Allies living in Axis nations. The pamphlet outlined sixteen ways for everyday people to best sabotage the United States’ World War II enemies by impairing organizations’ productivity.

The suggested methods to purposely squash productivity are all-too-common behaviors found in modern-day organizations world-wide…

It was shared in an attempt to help the Allies reduce production in factories, offices, and transportation lines to weaken the country ultimately.

From CIA.gov.
From CIA.gov.

“Some of the instructions seem outdated; others remain surprisingly relevant,” says the description of the pamphlet on the CIA’s website. “Together, they are a reminder of how easily productivity and order can be undermined.”

The manual was declassified in 2008 and is available to the public. The irony is that the suggested methods to purposely squash productivity are all-too-common behaviors found in modern-day organizations world-wide, practices that contribute to ineffective communication and hinder efficiency.

We’ve chosen four of them to dissect below to shed light on the patterns and habits we unknowingly partake in that obstruct effective communication in meetings; then, we offer counter-suggestions for optimum communication.

World War II soldiers

“Timeless Tips for Simple Sabotage” CIA manual instructions:

  1. Make “speeches.” Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your “points” by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
  2. Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
  3. Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
  4. Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.

Women in war

4 effective communication strategies for productive meetings.

1. Create an inclusive environment

Why do most people dread meetings? Among several reasons, it is usually because they feel they are a waste of their precious time and that they will be talked at—rather than being an active part of the conversation—about information that does not interest or pertain to them. In other words, they fear the meeting will be long, boring, and pointless.

And unfortunately, most meetings are. A study by the Harvard Business Review found that, of 182 senior managers surveyed among a range of industries, 71% said meetings are unproductive and inefficient; 62% said meetings miss the opportunity to bring teams together.

When you structure your meeting like a long-winded lecture, you are more likely to lose the interest and focus of the attendees. And when your talking points are backed by personal anecdotes rather than substantial evidence or data, people will lose interest. They want to have a purpose for taking time out of their day to be there.

Respect their time and express a desire for their contribution. A meeting should not be a one-person show. The best meetings are a collaborative experience. It is highly unlikely that people want to sit idly and listen to a speech of considerable length that they have little connection to. Create an inclusive environment by getting everyone involved. Ask for opinions and feedback about the objective you want to obtain. Open up the floor for brainstorming and collaborative discussion, and listen.

When people feel that they are an active part of the conversation and genuinely being heard, they are much more likely to participate and contribute proficiently.

2. Stay on topic

Clearly identify a purpose for the meeting you wish to call, then create a detailed agenda for it before the meeting—including start and end time—and any scheduled breaks and activities that will be included.

Outline the agenda with only relevant and essential topics that will be discussed, then follow it carefully. This will help to keep the conversation focused solely on what you need to discuss, which eliminates wasted time and the chance for attendees to lose focus on what needs to be accomplished. Bringing up irrelevant issues, especially frequently, significantly alters productivity and efficiency.

It is counterproductive to discuss anything in a meeting that is irrelevant to your purpose. Therefore, it is imperative to stick to your agenda and stay on topic to have the most successful meeting as possible. Stay focused on the goal, and redirect the conversation back to it if it strays off course. Only discussing the purpose of the meeting will heighten productivity, and staying on schedule ensures that everyone’s time is respected.

3. Decide and commit

Firm decisions make meetings productive. This includes making decisions about expectations before the start of the session, then explicitly communicating the agenda at the very beginning of the meeting so that everyone knows what to expect (in meeting topic and length), as well as setting guidelines for how the meeting will be run so that everyone is on the same page from the start. There should be no surprises.

When you are unprepared and fail to communicate the meeting structure and expectations, you risk wasting time bantering about trivial matters–for example, wordings of communications and minutes–that take away from the objective; it is inefficient communication.

An effective way to communicate better in meetings is to pre-determine a decider. This individual will serve as a facilitator, and their job is to help guide the conversation and ensure a clear understanding and concise consensus (when applicable) is reached by the end of the meeting that everyone respects.

It is important to note that not everyone will completely agree with all matters discussed in a meeting. And that’s okay. Resolutions should be respected by the group and left alone after decided to avoid stagnation, i.e., wasted time and low levels of productivity. Once a decision is made, recognize it and move on. The most productive meetings are focused on uninterrupted forward momentum. Therefore, digging up past matters from previous meetings that were already decided on do not contribute to effective communication in the present.


Productivity is delicate and necessary for a prosperous business. As discussed above, it can also be easily compromised. The danger comes when we are not aware that how we communicate can hinder it. Being aware of poor communication tactics, then, and how to correct them will help you to have more successful communication in your meetings, and therefore, get the most out of them.

Do you want to run more productive meetings?

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Innovation, Architecture and Healthcare Design https://voltagecontrol.com/blog/innovation-architecture-and-healthcare-design/ Sat, 11 Aug 2018 00:17:52 +0000 https://voltagecontrolmigration.wordpress.com/2018/08/11/innovation-architecture-and-healthcare-design/ This is part of my series on thought leaders in the innovation space. Check out the other articles here. For Tama Duffy Day, community and curiosity have guided her throughout her career. Whether it’s a hospital waiting room or a new community healthcare facility, Tama believes design has a role to play. I talked to [...]

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A conversation with Tama Duffy Day, Firmwide Health & Wellness Practice Area Leader at Gensler

This is part of my series on thought leaders in the innovation space. Check out the other articles here.

For Tama Duffy Day, community and curiosity have guided her throughout her career. Whether it’s a hospital waiting room or a new community healthcare facility, Tama believes design has a role to play. I talked to Tama about how design impacts health and why she thinks understanding the human experience is where innovation begins.

Tama Duffy Day, Firmwide Health & Wellness Practice Area Leader at Gensler
Tama Duffy Day, Firmwide Health & Wellness Practice Area Leader at Gensler

How design impacts health

Tama’s recent focus in the world of healthcare came amid an industry shift away from academic institutions and large hospitals toward more community-based healthcare where more could be learned about what’s needed to grow a healthy community.

“I didn’t necessarily set out to be innovative. I set out to learn and to understand and to make a difference and, through that, some innovative sparks are created.”

Tama has employed design for a broad spectrum of considerations from reducing medical errors by determining the proper lighting and atmosphere for nurses preparing medication to improving longevity through community education initiatives in places where access to healthcare, community, and fresh foods often determine an individual’s life expectancy.

Testing the clinical area mock-up with the Rush University Medical Center team.
Testing the clinical area mock-up with the Rush University Medical Center team.

Communication as a measurement

The nebulous nature of innovation can make efforts to measure success elusive. Tama shared that sometimes creating awareness is a worthy goal within itself and one that can garner organizational support for the long haul.

At the beginning of an engagement she explores how success could be defined beyond the typical measurement of revenue and how it might look as projects progress and goals shift. “I think at times perhaps all of us get a bit mired in looking at only one aspect of a project, you know, how much should the organization invest and how will the investment be returned.” What she’s found is that success can mean a number of things and vary at different stages.

In the early stages, success might be greater awareness for her work and philosophy. Last year she and her team invested time in creating blogs and podcasts and running think tanks and round tables to radiate information about their approach to innovation and the strategy behind healthcare design. Much of this was discussed through the lens of the Gensler Experience Index; a framework that aligns a customer’s intention through the understanding of expectation, interaction and physical space.

This year that investment is paying off with new forward thinking clients such as the Henry Ford Health System, Children’s National Health System, Rush University Medical Center, Kaiser Permanente and others, in the form of strategic planning around ambulatory health expansion. And the payoff has been twofold — her transparent approach to communication has created opportunities across the firm to advise on matters within their areas of expertise and make valuable contributions.

Visioning session with Henry Ford Health System leadership.
Visioning session with Henry Ford Health System leadership.

Passionate people are the core of innovation

According to Tama, “like-minded thinkers who are also passionate and driven by the topic” are a critical component for a successful innovation program. Even the seemingly unrelated passions of her colleagues have led to unexpected opportunities for connection that greatly benefit their work from a team building standpoint as well as providing new ideas through which their practice can evolve.

That flexibility and willingness to continually evolve from the original direction is another important characteristic of a successful innovation program. In Tama’s words: “…really allowing the path to shift, to have a direction of course, and to have an end goal in mind and to understand where you’re headed, but to understand along the path that it might change and to allow change to take place is a critical part of staying innovative.”

Gensler Fabrication Lab in the Washington, DC office. Photo: Michael Moran
Gensler Fabrication Lab in the Washington, DC office. Photo: Michael Moran

Using skills in new ways

Once you’ve built a team of passionate people, finding purpose within the work can propel the team to higher levels of commitment and motivation. Tama found her purpose in an unexpected place. Initially when she was assigned to her first project in the healthcare field Tama was concerned that her work in retail had been unsatisfactory. But that was far from the case and her concern was quickly replaced by fascination and a new found purpose.

“I attended the first symposium for healthcare facilities and I, along with others, helped shape the whole idea of healthcare design.” Having the opportunity to shape a new field and use her existing knowledge from the retail space to provide a new perspective in the healthcare world gave Tama an exciting reason to get out of bed in the morning.

Intuition in innovation

With a team of passionate people united by purpose, the foundation is set. To keep things moving in the right direction, the skill Tama values most is one that might surprise you. “I’ve learned that intuition is a real gift and so I’ve been really working on helping my team and my colleagues hone their intuition so that they also hear not only what was said, but what wasn’t said in the room in order to deliver amazing service.” In her experience, valuing intuition accelerates learning and helps her team uncover a plethora of non-verbal information that they can incorporate into their solutions.

NVision Eye Centers waiting room Photo: Ryan Gobuty
NVision Eye Centers waiting room Photo: Ryan Gobuty

“I’ve learned that intuition is a real gift and so I’ve been really working on helping my team and my colleagues hone their intuition…” —Tama Duffy Day

Evolution not revolution

For Tama, delivering amazing service is her primary goal and innovation is the byproduct. And when innovation does happen, Tama advises that it isn’t always immediately apparent, sometimes requiring distance and maturity to identify it. Looking back on her work with the Mayo clinic, Tama recalls wanting the satisfaction of seeing immediate changes. Now with some distance she sees its true value.

“Our work perhaps didn’t change the world, but it did incrementally modify and change how the Mayo Clinic looked at delivering certain portions of patient care over time.”

In learning to broaden her own definition of innovation, Tama sees an opportunity to reconsider how we celebrate it. “The breakthroughs and game changers get the spotlight a lot, but it’s not often that you hear about the incremental changes that result in sustained impact.”

“The breakthroughs and game changers get the spotlight a lot, but it’s not often that you hear about the incremental changes that result in sustained impact.” — Tama Duffy Day

Unity Health Care renovated clinical waiting space. Photo: Wray Ward / Sunbrella
Unity Health Care renovated clinical waiting space. Photo: Wray Ward / Sunbrella

Taking the mystery out of health

One project that would excite Tama would be to design a digital version of a patient’s medical record around the exam conversation—to take a little of the mystery out of health and the human body. “Imagine walking into your exam room and the entire wall is a graphic illustration of your medical record and you can touch on it, and move things around […] to see your own self in a way that isn’t such a mystery could inspire you.” Once again the themes of intuition and patient empathy surface as her team considers the question — what would a patient want to know and what would motivate them to improve their own health?

Her excitement about the impact data can have to inspire people goes beyond her own clients, too. Tama believes companies like 23andme are getting innovation right by inspiring human curiosity to learn more about themselves. “If we’re more curious and we understand that parts of who we are have come from all over the world, maybe we can understand and have more empathy in a more global view of life.”


If you want to read more articles with perspectives from innovation experts, check them all out here.

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